Finally saw the new Vette, like it even less now.( with bonus cutaway)

"slipperysallylikespenguins" (slipperysally) 08/29/2019 at 12:55 • Filed to: None

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This one was at Laguna Seca during the Motorsport Reunion. They had a pretty cool cutaway car too. I wanted to hold off on my opinion until I saw one in person.

While I love the idea of a high performance mid engine car for relatively cheap, the design leaves a lot to be desired. There are just so many creases that don’t need to exist. The over styling of the exterior just makes it look like a cheap video game knockoff. The Acura booth was just a hundred feet away and I could of sworn they had a Corvette too, but it was just the NSX.

The Audi R8, Mclaren 570, Ferrari 488, and Lamborghini Huracan all are mid engine but still look unique and interesting. I don’t understand how GM and Acura could come up with such bland designs.

Compounding this problem was every 80s-90s mid engine car was in town over the weekend. Every one of them with simple lines that flow across the entire car. No gigantic vents or overly aggressive faces. Not a transformer to be seen.

I loved seeing the cutaway car. It’s great to see a company go through so much effort to show people the guts of their new car.

Without the trunk insert, there is significant room for forced induction related activities. But this also brings me to my next complaint.

The Corvette has always been a working mans sports car. To me this means I should be able to do most repairs on it at home, like every other generation of Corvette. That’s just not possible for your average home mechanic with a mid engine configuration. So while depreciation will eventually make these easily accessible to everyone. They will be extra expensive to maintain and end up neglected like most BMWs and Mercedes once they reach that 2nd or 3rd owner.

As for GM’s argument that the Corvette was tapped out on performance without the move to mid engine, who cares. A base C7 is already way more powerful than you can ever use on the street, and a Z06 could harass almost anything on a track. You don’t have to keep pushing down 0-60 times just to look cool, it doesn’t mean anything anymore. The lack of a manual is just absurd. The take rate was still decent and unless you are a dedicated track rat, shift times mean absolutely nothing. You aren’t going to be seeing many base C8s on a track anytime soon.

TL:DR: The Corvette C8 is a game changing performance bargain of the decade, and I hate it.

Sovande > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:01

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So is it bland or overstyled? You mention both? I think it’s better looking than the C7, by a long stretch. It no longer looks like a dick extension with a bunch of weird aero mods and more like a cohesive design. I don’t partic ularly like it, but I think it works.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Sovande 08/29/2019 at 13:04

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Both, the over styling does nothing to add to the design. It just distracts. A simpler design is often better and more focused.

I didn’t like the C7 much either. Same problem with too much going on.  

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:11

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The Audi R8, Mclaren 570, Ferrari 488, and Lamborghini Huracan all are mid engine but still look unique and interesting.

T hey all look just over- styled supercars to me.

CalzoneGolem > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:16

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That’s a horrendous color.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 08/29/2019 at 13:21

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They are all over-styled supercars, but they still look fairly distinct. And they all look arguably worse than their predecessors.

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:22

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So much speculation.

I think it looks WAY better than a 570s and the Huracan is just boring compared to the others you mention . That Bronze color with those pewter wheels and that  interior look fantastic!

slipperysallylikespenguins > CalzoneGolem 08/29/2019 at 13:22

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I was excited for a s plit second to see such a color on their promo model. I’m hoping it would look better in direct sun.

Shift24 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:24

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Id agree with the take it was supposed to the average Joe’s sports car. You could take one off the show room floor and mess with it cheaply and boost its performance.

The mid engine basically means you have to have a lift or some how detach the rear to get at it.

Ill argue though styling is the best they could do to make sure it looked like a Vette. It’s more of a playbook from Lamborghini with angles and lines rather than the Ferrari/ McLaren rounded sleek designs .

But with Chevy’s current design profile/language, rounded or smooth edges are not there strong points. (Camaro, Silverado, Bl azer, and so on)

BeaterGT > CalzoneGolem 08/29/2019 at 13:25

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Nah it’s great.

CalzoneGolem > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:27

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I hope so. 

CalzoneGolem > BeaterGT 08/29/2019 at 13:27

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Are you taking the piss or what?

OPPOsaurus WRX > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:28

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Chevy design department is still stroking their pill induced boner for Micheal Bay

BeaterGT > CalzoneGolem 08/29/2019 at 13:28

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Nope. I seriously think it looks good in Zeus Bronze or whatever the hell they came up with. It’s about time we see this color on something other than a Jetta.

CalzoneGolem > BeaterGT 08/29/2019 at 13:30

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P erhaps I’ll dial it back a bit from horrendous but I don’t think it’s doing this V ette any favors.

BeaterGT > CalzoneGolem 08/29/2019 at 13:36

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I think it will appeal to the more conservative buyers that don’t want a super bright red/yellow/blue with the new yellow and blue being brighter and more “exotic” than anything previously offered. And for all we know, it is just leftover Bronze paint from the special edition Cadillac V cars.  

RallyWrench > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:49

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I walked right past that display but didn’t try to get in with kids and a stroller. Kind of wish I had now. As a whole it’s amazing, and I’m excited to see them on the street and track, but I just can’t bring myself to like the back of the car in particular .    The taillights just don’t work and the rear wing looks like an afterthought. I’m curious to see what the aftermarket comes up with though, and what the forthcoming Z models do, because there’s room for improvement. I really like the C7, including its taillights, but I think this would have been a good opportunity to go back to rounded lights. 

They probably could have happily sold an updated C7 for years to come, but for the racing Corvettes to remain competitive, they had to change. I mean, Porsche moved the engine in the 911! You know it’s serious when that happens, and Chevy had to make a drastic change as well.

slipperysallylikespenguins > Shift24 08/29/2019 at 13:52

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I completely agree that the design makes sense from a corporate point, it’s just that Chevy has one of the worst design departments currently, except maybe Nissan. Out of their entire lineup I only like the Tahoe/Suburban and Express.

CalzoneGolem > BeaterGT 08/29/2019 at 13:55

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I’d take Arctic White over this 100% but it does look better in the light.

CalzoneGolem > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 13:55

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BeaterGT > CalzoneGolem 08/29/2019 at 14:01

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All I know is I like the car so much more without the Z-51 spoiler. I’m not going to early adopt a car with this much new technology so I’m hoping they offer another green option in the future .

slipperysallylikespenguins > RallyWrench 08/29/2019 at 14:24

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I can’t imagine making my way through the crowds with a stroller. I was there Saturday and it was crazy all day.

Not sure if you saw it, but t he Porsche was there too.

HammerheadFistpunch > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 14:43

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that cutaway is impressive. really drives home the point of how much they are overcharging for pickups if they c an build a highly engineered bespoke low volume supercar and charge tends of thousands less than a high volume steel body on steel frame truck.

Tapas > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 14:44

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I don’t like the design.

I wish it was a better looking car because I like everything else about it!

BeaterGT > RallyWrench 08/29/2019 at 14:46

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Porsche moved the engine and Ford built a car just for the series, of course Chevy had to come up with a response.

Porscheoscar > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 14:47

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This car is made by Am eric ans.

Shift24 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 14:48

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I was a GM/C hevy guy for a long time and now that’s my view. T he B urb and Tahoe are still Chevy’s  staple. 

Though I do like the C8, the rest of the line up is just there like Nissan . Just n ot really appealing or innovative.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 14:52

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I will say that from pictures, I’m “meh” on the exterior styling, but the interior looks fantastic.

slipperysallylikespenguins > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 08/29/2019 at 15:07

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I was meh on styling until I saw it in person and found I dislike it more. The interior materials were nice and upscale, but I dislike the button row and screen placement.

slipperysallylikespenguins > HammerheadFistpunch 08/29/2019 at 15:11

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I’m curious as to what the profit margin is on the Corvettes. I imagine it will take a while just to make up for r&d.

RallyWrench > BeaterGT 08/29/2019 at 15:28

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Yup. Turbo Ferraris don’t help, either. 

JasonA > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 15:31

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As far as the Z06 being able to harass anything on track.... That's only true for a lap or two.  While it may be able to lap as quick as a Porsche GT3, the GT3 will run those laps all day. The Z06 tires lose their grip and the car gets to hot to be consistent after a 1-2 hot laps.  I doubt most Z06 and ZR1 owners are doing their own maintenance regardless.. and if they do I am sure they would find a way to do it on this vehicle as well. Chevy isn't making a car that requires you to remove the bumper and under body for an oil change (ah la Ferarri 458). 

RallyWrench > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 15:31

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I was there Saturday too, I did get a brief glimpse of the 911MR but no shots. Very cool. There are a lot of things that a stroller prevents and makes difficult there, lugging that thing over the bridges with young kids in tow sucks! Dadlife at Laguna is a serious workout. Worth it to share the place with them, though.

benn454 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 15:32

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 The high volume (for a sports car) and the sharing of engine architecture with the trucks ensures that each Corvette generation has been profitable. I doubt Corvette would have survived the bailout otherwise. 

benn454 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 15:37

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I dig the button row. It’s neat (in both the “neat and tidy” and “golly gee" senses), ergonomic, and looks better than having a mass of buttons on the dash.

WiscoProud > HammerheadFistpunch 08/29/2019 at 15:39

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Good point. I wonder what the actual cost is for BOF trucks and SUVs

Drunver > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 15:57

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Nissan is horrible huh! C6 vettes look best , but I could fix a C7 a lot by just ordering it black. Loses all the clashing black plastic flair to the actual car color.

Speed > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 16:16

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Those exhaust manifolds are FANTASTIC!

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 16:54

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How many people work on their 60k+  cars? Building the s car for the 2 or 3rd driver is the incorrect marketing spec.

Grindintosecond > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 16:56

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Corvette C7 z01 vs. Camaro zl1....getting near two front engined sports gt cars....liked front engined Vette? Get a Camaro....which I wonder what it will have for it’s next generation now the fe Vette is gone...but the c8 engine in a lower camaro....

HammerheadFistpunch > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 17:36

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it's probably c9 where it becomes profitable

7 car pileup would be a good name for a rock band > Shift24 08/29/2019 at 17:37

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Interestingly enough, to access the engine bay for things like belt changes, you’ll remove the seats and behind that is an access panel to the engine bay, the car was designed to not have any engine out services. 

slipperysallylikespenguins > Grindintosecond 08/29/2019 at 17:38

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There is a big difference in prestige to the potential buyers. A Camaro is not a Corvette, never will be. I doubt very many people even cross shop them. Also the Camaro is so ugly it hurts.

slipperysallylikespenguins > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 08/29/2019 at 17:49

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A lot of people work on their 60K cars. 60k isn’t that much. Its in the range for enthusiasts to buy their dream car. I know quite a few who can only afford their nice cars and trucks because they take care of them on their own. These are people who keep things well past their warranty and can’t afford to have a shop take half their car apart to work on the engine.

The model of making things hard to service works well on high end cars like newer Ferraris or Lamborghinis because the owners wouldn’t dare get their hands greasy. It also works for appliance cars because the original owner typically doesn’t keep them past warranty. But many buyers of trucks, Wranglers, muscle, and sports cars expect to be able to do at least basic servicing.

put-some-turbo-on-meeeee > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 17:53

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Pretty high, probably about 30% on the base and 70%+ on most options in material/manufacturing costs. I was looking at GM supplier discounts and they are pretty lean on the base models, but are very healthy on options.

The retooling of Bowling Green was $500 million for the C7, which sold about 125,000 units. So tooling costs are roughly $4,000 per unit. Not sure about engineering costs, so let’s say another $4,000 pu.

Burning Down the House > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 18:20

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Idk, I saw it in person at Carlisle and I thought it looked a lot better in person. Sleek, purposeful and evolutionary from the C7. Are there better designs? Yeah. But it has some great colors, good storage in the frunk and trunk, and the seats are spacious.

OmerCarrothers333 > Speed 08/29/2019 at 18:58

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Unfortunately, no one will ever see the manifolds.

FastIndy > Shift24 08/29/2019 at 19:12

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Eh, I think the styling for Camaro/Silverado/Blazer is fire. 

JohnnyWasASchoolBoy > HammerheadFistpunch 08/29/2019 at 19:37

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It’s not “bespoke”. Bespoke is made-to-order with exact owner-defined specifications. A Saville Row suit is bespoke. A Rolls Royce in their in house tailoring shop is bespoke.

A Corvette, even this Corvette, is mass-produced for anyone with good credit.

coqui70 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 19:58

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I don’t think the assessment on maintenance is correct - everything actually looks fairly accessible. Plus unlike an exotic there won’t be the need for complete engine tear-downs, 20K mile timing chain replacements and other such non-sense. At the end of the day it’s an LT-series engine - albeit a highly tuned one.

I am intrigued by the construction of the spaceframe, it looks to be bolted and bonded together from stamped aluminium bars instead of being welded. This probably helped reduce the cost of manufacturing.

I’d love to get a peek at the maintenance schedule - that will be the clue as to difficulty and cost.

mcdillio > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 20:04

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Could’ve not could of.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > WiscoProud 08/29/2019 at 20:40

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In the early/mid 2000s ford was making 10k profit per f 250. Its why they can drop $ 15k incentives on a “$ 60k” truck.

D.D. > HammerheadFistpunch 08/29/2019 at 20:47

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When I first seen the C8 I thought it was rather bland, and this article is 100 percent correct in all regards, in my mind. 

good point on the truck comparison.

slipperysallylikespenguins > coqui70 08/29/2019 at 20:51

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I think basic maintenance will be okay, stuff like plugs, injectors, and oil changes. Major services will be an engine out affair though.

The cutaway car was very cool. I wish more manufacturers would do that.

SgtFancypants > Grindintosecond 08/29/2019 at 20:56

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Problem is, while the Camaro is a fast car, it's not a sports car. It's big and heavy. If you don't mind that and can get over the uglies it's a great car otherwise. 

SgtFancypants > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 20:59

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I can get over the styling for the price they’re asking for it, much as I have with the C7. But the lack of a manual clutch is unforgivable. I’m GM’s target demographic for this car, doing well enough to have a nice house with a three car garage along with a desire to buy something nice to store in it. But no manual? No sale.

RTS REASON > HammerheadFistpunch 08/29/2019 at 21:05

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A Corvette can't tow 35,000lbs with it's modular aluminum frame

Grindintosecond > SgtFancypants 08/29/2019 at 21:18

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For now it is. With the c7 out of it’s way, the Camaro can be anything they deem it to be. Not-ugly, and closer to c7 performance. I’m positive there were several people who went Camaro because it had nearly the same power but was cheaper. It’s backseat is pretty much a joke anyway.  So whatever way they want to go with it, they now have more room to do so.

HammerheadFistpunch > RTS REASON 08/29/2019 at 21:19

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and a dually can't get to 60 under 3 seconds...

Shift24 > FastIndy 08/29/2019 at 21:30

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I agree in the sense of

Chris > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/29/2019 at 21:50

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Not a s ugly as the Mustang. That thing is just hideous...especially that goofy ass looking f ront.

Rsm > HammerheadFistpunch 08/30/2019 at 00:29

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How is this "bespoke"? Bespoke is a term used for a custom product made for a specific person (customer) on order. 

Rsm > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 00:31

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They've been working on this for a long time. I'm sure the costs of development have been added in to the sales cost of previous models. 

zrc > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 00:50

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Sorry , but I don’t what you do to say 60,000 isn’t much, but that’s a years salary for me. And alot more for more. Even 40 is still up there, albeit  obtainable. But 20-25 is completely in range for blue collar workers. And a third owner Corvette is what I would look at. (I don't, because I live within my means, but I would love one) 

Mark > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 02:06

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w hatever, you sound like a little broke “hater" punk who cant afford a Camaro SS either

Doug > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 02:37

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Maintenance.. I think it is about 6 bolts to remove engine train from a Fiero. Drop the whole thing and good to go. Fiero Space Frame also should have been used her e. All the plastic body panels were ez to swap out. Fieros WERE supposed to replace the Corvette back in the 80s. Oh.. And they looked nicer too.

Synikal > Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast 08/30/2019 at 05:49

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I agree! I don’t think I’ve ever seen an “over stylized” car in my life so not sure what everyone else here is taking about, kind of like when people say something is “too sweet”. I think it’s the best looking Vette, but to each their own.

Awesomecars > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 07:49

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You certainly are in the minority. The new C8 is selling like pancakes. It’s not an evolutionary design, like the C5-C6-C7, each badically being a reskined C5. The C8 is a revolutionary departure, one that is going to be fantastic for GM and the Corvette nameplate. Perhaps you are a current C7 owner that just realized their C7 just became worth dramatically less ? 

Awesomecars > coqui70 08/30/2019 at 07:51

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You are correct. Maintenance on the C8 won't be much, if any, different than the C7. The oil filter is accessible underneath by a cutaway. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RTS REASON 08/30/2019 at 08:04

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It can with the Duramax option...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CalzoneGolem 08/30/2019 at 08:06

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Rear end is reminiscent of the newest Honda Civic.

Awesomecars > Grindintosecond 08/30/2019 at 08:06

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The 7th Generation Camaro has been cancelled with no plans to continue the Camaro past the current model. Long story short, GM is following somewhat in the shoes of Ford and discontinuing many cars. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Speed 08/30/2019 at 08:08

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That’s what I noticed also. And NASA-looking tips out behind the rear wheels. I bet there’s a pleasing exhaust note. But beyond that, I find it an uninteresting car.

Awesomecars > HammerheadFistpunch 08/30/2019 at 08:09

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No, GM will have plenty of profits from the C8. The C8 is selling like pancakes. 

Awesomecars > D.D. 08/30/2019 at 08:13

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This article is 100% dead WRONG. The new C8 is one of the best looking Corvettes ever. From the C4 forward, ea ch Generation of the Corvette looks/preformers better than the last.

Awesomecars > RTS REASON 08/30/2019 at 08:15

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Why on Earth would someone want to do something silly like that ? 

Awesomecars > RallyWrench 08/30/2019 at 08:19

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I like the overall exterior design . Not so much on the interior. The roll of buttons seems out of place and seems there could have been an alternative. The rear spoiler does look like an aftermarket part. It also slows the cars top end from 194 mph to 184. Personally, I think it looks better without the spoiler. (And I normally like spoilers, unless they look like an aftermarket part. The best looking spoiler I have seen was on the 4th Generation Trans Am. Admittedly, it was huge, but it also stuck out just enough you could see the ends of it in the sideview mirrors. It was cool.

The change over to the mid engine design was to bring more buyers over to the Corvette. GM had to do something. The C7s weren’t selling. Dealers have a huge backlog of them.

The Gerd > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 08:25

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The good thing here is that everyone is entitled to their opinion. As far as the C8 is concerned it is honestly a homerun for many, many people. As a previous owner of 2015 Stingray which was the first Corvette that resonated with me (I’m 39 as of today) the C8 is literally everything I could have wanted. I am holding out a few years to see what the Z06 and Grand Sport variants offer because I like the more aggressive Z06 looks of each gen prior but really want a NA engine.

The chassis is primarily bolted and bonded to make repairs much easier and cost effective.  As for maintenance, this car may be one of the easiest mid engine cars to work on.  I guess swapping out the cam would require engine removal but the fact that you can drop the entire drivetrain out of the car intact I think the only difficulty will be in the need for a lift to do so.  I am looking forward to getting my hands on one so that I can see about letting Katech work their magic on it...I imagine that it won't take long before they make a Street Attack 427 version pushing 700hp all motor style!

The Gerd > JohnnyWasASchoolBoy 08/30/2019 at 08:30

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There is potentially 11,000+ possible configurations that one can order when buying a C8. It’s not quite as “bespoke” as a Rolls but you can definitely get a C8 exactly the way you want and that doesn’t even take into consideration that you can option color over ride which allows you to option your car with color combinations that aren’t available in the configurator.

People consider Porsche cars as bespoke and the Corvette has followed a similar (yet much more reasonably priced) structure for decades, so yes you have quite a selection of options to tailor a C8 to your taste.

OBI > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 08/30/2019 at 08:32

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Considering there are so many cars in that range these days, I'd assume a lot of people work on their own 60k cars. 

SC111 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 09:06

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Opinions are like a**holes everyone has one. For every guy like you that doesn’t like the C8 there are probably 10 that do.

People most certainly do cross shop Camaros and Corvettes. Nobody looking at a Camaro RS is going to, but I have a 2017 ZL1 and have a deposit down on a C8. Only hesitation I had was whether to wait for the Z06 as I’ll be dropping from 650hp to 495.

Most of these modern cars require very little major repairs so I don’t think GM is really concerned about the 1% of owners that fix major problems themselves. Most enthusiasts are just like me, changing fluids, w heels and brake pads for the track. These maintenance items should still be very  easy to do.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 10:12

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“Working man’s?”

Seriously, how disconnected are you from the world of cars if you think folks are just out workin’ on the old horse on Sunday afternoon?

Especially the elderly (aka, Corvette owners).

Your hot take is several decades old. Your understanding of people who buy Vettes is misguided.

Your right that the C7 didn’t need any more power. But simply more power is not why Chevy moved the engine to the back.

Design wise, we see eye to eye.

It's better than C7 in every way, but it's not a great design. 

CalzoneGolem > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 08/30/2019 at 10:20

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Yeah, lots of angry folds.

JohnnyWasASchoolBoy > The Gerd 08/30/2019 at 10:38

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“ People consider Porsche cars as bespoke...”

People are wrong.

Superyachts made to an owner’s exacting specs are bespoke. Suits and shoes from tailors and cobblers working from your exact measurements, are bespoke. Not even Porsche’s claim that “no two 911s will be identical in a model year”, makes them bespoke.

At the end of the day, this is still “just a Corvette”. It’s mass-produced by one of the biggest companies in the world. It’s a commodity; a fast, pseudo-fancy commodity, but a commodity nonetheless.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 11:58

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The margin’s all in options (and they’re giving people plenty of ways to customize it).

arl > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 12:04

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Good take on it. It’s fugly. And no third pedal?! It’s a Vette, not a Camry! 

I do like the bronze color though. 

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 13:00

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What major services would require the engine coming out? There’s no timing belt, and that’s the big one for most exotics. If you had to replace the clutch pack I’d think only the trans would have to be removed.

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 13:05

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I kinda wish the rear clip wasn’t so angular, and more like the 1st gen Ford GT.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 13:20

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I prefer to look at it this way: I’d love to make a few tasteful cosmetic mods to make the C8 look just right. The front clip looks the busiest to me, so that’s where I would start. New bumper, headlights and trunk lid to remove all of the useless character lines.

As it is, it looks like the $60k car that it is, and that’s fine. It’s already shaping up  to be an incredible performance value, just like Corvettes have always been.

BelaythatOrder > Mark 08/30/2019 at 13:49

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No, the new Camaros have gotten uglier and uglier since the first 5th design (which was decent) introduction

Jeepsandhondas > coqui70 08/30/2019 at 14:18

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That’s why only certain dealerships will be certified to perform maintenance and repair on them. But they do have cutaways for oil blah blah. Fact is, you aren’t buying a muscle car anymore, it’s a supercar. SuperCa r=superCost lol

Edward J. > The Gerd 08/30/2019 at 14:28

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100% agree. I used to think that the C7 was over style d too. But now I own a 2015 Z51. I think the C8 is gorgeous. Would the author prefer they toned it down like, I don’t know, an Aventador? FOH

And fo r anyone to make the argument that garage and jack stand maintenance on a SUPERCAR should be mandatory is idiotic. I’m sure regular maintenance will be easy, as the oil filter cutout picture that’s float ing around has illustrated. And I expect the little things to be easy, but I’m not touching any major component on something like this. I   just changed a clutch on a 96 Civic. Would I change the clutch on my Vette? Hell no!

pensive69 > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 15:02

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Dif ferent me . .love the new design.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 16:23

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You’re getting a lot of views on this one and while I don’t really agree you’ve already heard it all, so I’ll lay that aside.

What I wanted to know is, what would your ideal Corvette look like and run like and are there any similar examples in the wild?

WildcatDave > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 16:24

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One man, one opinion...

By all means feel free to hate it. I’m guessing there was a huge crowd around that car the entire time. As an American that’s always loved the muscle and sports cars that companies have produced from this country I say congrats to Chevrolet for producing an amazing performance Corvette that looks striking and keeping it within reason of the common man’s budget.

Restomod > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 16:32

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I wonder how many would still find the design “hideous” if it had a Ferrari /Lamborghini /McLaren badge instead of Chevrolet... 

TheIndividualist > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 16:59

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Partially agree.  The styling is whatever. It will appeal to the people they are marketing towards. The lack of manual is what killed it for me. I like to have fun while I drive, and Corvettes have always been fun to thrash through the gears, get a little tire chirp here and there. Now that's not going to happen. So yeah, not cool.

BootsieC > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 17:26

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Umm... what kind of "journalist" uses the phrase "could of"? Are you 12? Please know that you are trying to use the word could've. It is a contraction of the words could and have.

slipperysallylikespenguins > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 08/30/2019 at 17:37

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These are a few renders/photoshops I found online that I think look better. They still carry the Corvette characteristics which is important. I find the worst design element of the new car is the gaping side vents with the black plastic blade, as well as the Camaro rear end.

These could all use a little more detailing but I think the overall look is cleaner.

slipperysallylikespenguins > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 08/30/2019 at 17:39

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A few more for fun.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/30/2019 at 17:46

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Interesting! I don’t know how to feel about that SUV render. That to me does not... work.

Out of both of your posts, from top down 1, 3 and 7 are really doing it for me.